Pope-style advice: sell the whole kingdom, not your slice
Mike delivers the pope-style advice (a host asks, 'Is that your Pope style?'). He recounts talking to his brother Ben about homeless-ministry work in front of coworkers, who assumed he was talking to a 'Jesus man' and were thrown that he was loud: their image of a Christian is a stoic piece of paper that doesn't do anything. His advice: when inviting people to Christ, sell the truth of the whole kingdom - its joy and its sadness - not a phony slice of it; don't envy someone else's testimony. The hosts riff on envying dramatic stories (a host admits sometimes wishing he had a drug-and-prison past) and on being blown away instead by the person faithful since age five.
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