Time.com #4 continued — new creation, chrysalis, #5 preview

The panel on identity in Christ: a new creation means dying and becoming something completely different, not a spit and shine. Dan's caterpillar/chrysalis analogy — the change is a messy process, mush in the cocoon. Mike: you never really come out as the butterfly — 'a bunch of dressed-up chrysalises in here.' Ben: Jesus isn't turning bad people good, he's bringing dead people alive. Ben previews #5 and names the author: 'It's by Neil Carter.'