Heresies four and five: the Holy Spirit as force; humans good by nature

Heresy four: 60% said the Holy Spirit is a force but not a personal being. The hosts note the Spirit scares people, so they try to confine and predict Him; He is sent as the Comforter, a presence, personified even in Genesis 1. One host recalls a Bible-college fellow who denied the Trinity after reading the Desert Fathers. Heresy five: 57% agreed everyone sins a little but most people are good by nature. The hosts push back — you have met yourself — while resisting full total-depravity overcrank: God created humanity in His image, which can't be total depravity. A Jack Cottrill book (Faith Once For All) is mentioned in this context; the hosts learned of his death days earlier. The segment lands on the real problem: a heavily churched but poorly discipled church, and teachers who cherry-pick. One host then tells his call-to-ministry story: in fourth grade, after watching a Calvinistic-church pastor tell his cheating father 'you're good, don't worry about it,' he decided someone needed to preach the Bible, not that.