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June 12, 2023 · 35:31 · 13 min

Lists, plans, and discipline as a skill

  • How do you build discipline in ordinary life?

The conversation turns to planning: a girl hates lists because making one feels like admitting she already failed the task, and planned fun feels boxed in. The hosts answer with the Franklin Planner big-rocks-and-little-rocks metaphor and the make-your-bed school of discipline. Discipline is framed as a skill, not a talent: small repeated acts like mowing the yard, vacuuming, and checking tire pressure build the capacity for bigger ones.

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