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Prayer January 15, 2024 · 1:00:02 · 12 min

Praying Job-style for others: transaction vs trust

  • As a pastor, what spiritual authority do I have — for example, to release a troublemaker from the congregation?

Dan wrestles with praying Job's prayer for his family — "will you cover the sins of all my family today?" — and whether that's even allowed. Ben argues we've become transactional in our faith ("you can blame the German theologians"), treating prayer, baptism, and even the cross as one-for-one exchanges, when the gospel writers saw far more in Jesus' death; he cites "saved through childbirth" as a text that refuses to fit the box. Mike shares his pastor's-heart question about what spiritual authority he has, telling of times he prayed "I release them" over a troublemaker and watched them leave within days. Dan closes it: we're not failing to see God move because we use the wrong words, but because we use no words — scheming instead of surrendering.

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