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June 10, 2024 · 35:46 · 15 min

Carl Lentz podcast: brokenness, disobedience, and pastoral failure

  • Why couldn't Carl Lentz just keep it in his pants?

The hosts react to Carl Lentz's podcast interview, where the former Hillsong New York pastor admitted not one affair but many, plus domineering behavior and pain-medication abuse, explaining it as coming from extreme brokenness. A host argues brokenness is true but not the whole story — there must also be disobedience and a failure of the will, or 'brokenness made me do it' becomes inevitable. Mike says he could not preach the gospel as Mike Fust and wonders how someone so far from God could preach fiery sermons for years without stepping away; a host calls it arrogance to believe the ministry needed you rather than stepping down for renewal. Mike closes by working out 'his strength is perfected in your weakness' on air and finding hope that God's faithfulness does not hinge on ours.

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