Thief in the night, a Calvinism tangent, and giving Steve credit

The hosts work through Camping's 1 Thessalonians 5 argument — that believers as 'children of the light' won't have the day come as a thief — and find the logic strained. A tangent on election and Calvinism follows ('that's not even Calvinism'). They close the Camping discussion by giving Steve genuine credit: it took courage to come on and boldly proclaim what he believes without being judgmental, and they pray God changes his heart if he's wrong.