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August 11, 2025 · 11:26 · 23 min

Church size: are churchgoers known by their pastor?

The hosts discuss Dan's article from carlvaders.com: most American churchgoers now attend large churches and, for the first time, the majority are not personally known by their pastor. Dan, preaching 41 years, says he has flipped on the megachurch model, calling large churches corporate entities where you pastor the staff, not the flock. The hosts weigh risks on both ends — insularity in small gatherings versus lost personal connection and accountability at scale — and cite Mark Driscoll and Mars Hill as what happens when a leader falls without relational accountability.

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