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Hard question May 4, 2026 · 23:38 · 4 min

The conference circuit; submission to Jesus is the main thing

Ben criticizes pastors who feel they must speak at ten conferences, calling them tools in the toolbox rather than the Holy Spirit. Dan describes work-conference speakers on LinkedIn who are always speaking but seemingly never doing the thing they speak about. Dan then lands the episode's thesis: the main thing is not making disciples — that is a right and awesome thing, but not the main thing — the main thing is submitting your life to Jesus as Lord, with his life as the template under the Holy Spirit's empowerment.

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