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Discussion September 28, 2026 · 11:45 · 4 min

Church hurt: don't farm out your faith

The hosts push back on the 'church hurt me so I deconstructed' frame: a leader's fall shouldn't touch your identity in Jesus any more than a coworker getting fired makes you quit your job. One host tells his PTL Club story — sending Jim Bakker money as a kid, the PTL Bible, the latch-rug logo — and when Bakker's scandals broke, 'never once did I think, he stole my $25, my faith is ruined... I gave my money to Jesus.' Dan tells how the pastor he came to Des Moines to plant with fired him over an affair and embezzlement; he kept his mission.

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