Saints, Mary, and Catholic foundations

• Do Catholics and Protestants share the same foundational faith?

The hosts debate Catholic veneration of Mary and the saints, distinguishing between honoring inspiring church-history figures and praying to them as intercessors. They agree Catholics and Protestants share foundational beliefs — the Trinity, Jesus sent and dying for sins — and call those the actual hills to die on: 'Are you a sinner? Do you need a Savior?' They conclude the Catholic error is relational, not about Christ's sovereignty: missing out on a personal, loving relationship with God.