Interview: gigging versus leading worship
A host asks Chris whether performing gigs differs from leading worship; Chris says he is not a performer but a worshipper, and performing feels like a normal service where people just are not singing (seg-00387 to seg-00399). The hosts riff on the habit of calling out the next verse quickly before singing it, a holdover from hymnal days when you might skip verses (seg-00401 to seg-00405).
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