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Dear LFTP December 16, 2013 · 36:11 · 5 min

Dear LFTP: the first-and-last date

  • Is it modern women's fault that men act like little boys? (Asked after a date who ordered only for himself.)
  • How does God feel about tattoos?

A woman writes about a first date where the man ordered himself a beer and prime rib without asking if she wanted anything, theorizing modern tattooed women who 'talk like sailors' ruined chivalry. The hosts reject both halves: no defense for the man ('he's a cartoon character'), and it's not women's fault men act like little boys. They debate who pays - Ben's daughters would allow no second date if the man didn't pay; Dan usually pays even for business coffees. A tangent: a man asked Ben during the week whether God hates his heart-with-'mom' tattoo after his old church condemned it; Ben told him the church doesn't speak for Jesus and to talk to Jesus himself. The Secular advice says it's not the lady's fault and she should speak up, noting many women now prefer to pay.

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