Shoes vs. shoe factory; war zone; Matthew 28
The hosts adopt Breen's line — 'we're trying to sell shoes, where we should be trying to build the shoe factory' — and his war-zone analogy: discipleship is boot camp and hospital; sending undiscipled people is 'mass carnage waiting to happen.' One host notes Breen's Red Army wave analogy made him think of Revelation. They agree 'missional' without Christ at the root will fail, cite Matthew 28 ('if our mission is to make disciples'), and read Breen's leader questions ('Am I a disciple?'). The article is sourced to onthevergenetwork.org, Mike Breen, with a part two.
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Should following Jesus feel more comfortable as time goes on?
- Should following Jesus feel more comfortable as time goes on?
A host asks whether following Jesus should feel more comfortable as time goes on — noting the low-level tension many feel around am-I-doing-enough and the stigma that contentment equals laziness.
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Confetti and lasers: what should God's people be known for?
- Do we want to be known as the confetti and lasers people?
- What should God's people be known for?
Ben redirects to the docket's denomination question: when someone hears Silas's church described as 'the confetti and lasers people,' should that sting?
From No. 598 · Emphasis | Accountability, Worship and Praying with Strangers
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Recovery ministries, charismatic experience, and sustainable faith
- Can recovery ministries replace a chemical high with a spiritual high, and is that sustainable?
A long pastoral discussion starting from recovery ministries, which tend to come from charismatic backgrounds: the risk of trading a chemical high for event-driven spiritual highs.
From No. 555 · The Aslan Wears Prada
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What does it mean to make disciples
- What does it mean to make disciples — is it just giving information, or does it involve accountability and structure?
The hosts take up the third topic: two extremes of disciple-making. On one side, being only an information provider and leaving everything to the Spirit; on the other, running…
From No. 545 · By Invitation Only