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September 15, 2025 · 9:28 · 12 min

Mourning Charlie Kirk: grief, deceit, and grace

  • Can you divorce the words of Jesus from the love of Jesus?

Ben argues there is no reason to react to the assassination as if the murdered man were not a human being worth mourning, and shares his caution about having grace for how deceived people came to believe what they believe. The hosts discuss pernicious ideas vs. deceived people underneath them, with the Saddam Hussein comparison and the danger of viewing political opponents as willingly evil.

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