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June 1, 2015 · 26:53 · 17 min

How do we know and trust God at all?

The hosts wrestle with the advice's implications: if we drop expectations of method, how do we know we are encountering God at all rather than just hoping we trust him; one host says he simply wants to know it is God 'pushing the button.' They offer the toaster analogy, trust grows from dependable interaction, not from treating God as a genie in a magic lamp, and the trusted-mediator idea: we learn to trust God the way the disciples did, through Jesus and through people who already know him, plus Scripture and the witness of God's work in other people's lives. The conversation closes on the Sermon on the Mount: we do not obey its radical calls on money and forgiveness because we misunderstand them, but because we do not truly believe they are the best program, which is a failure of trust.

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