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Testimony July 13, 2015 · 20:04 · 6 min

Story behind 'Closer' and a conversation on forgiveness

  • Is the song 'Closer' a reaction to something specific, or to the broader culture of bullying?

The vocalist explains 'Closer' was written about a specific betrayal — a two-faced person spreading lies about her and the band right after her mother died — and about having to forgive that person daily for a year and a half. The hosts respond with a long discussion of forgiveness: anger is a right reaction to injustice, but holding onto it gives the moment more power than it owned; biblical forgiveness means recognizing the wrong for what it is and absorbing its cost rather than exacting it.

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