Purpose, exercise, retirement, and aging out of ministry
- How do we live with intention and purpose instead of drifting?
- What will we do when we age out of the ministry roles we love?
A long discussion on purpose and intention: Ben muses that farmers never do burpees yet stay healthy into their 80s, and argues the real issue is purpose, not physical labor. Retirement comes up — one host's 20-year plan, Dan's story of a 90-year-old retiree who hates every minute of it, and a prior guest's point that retirement is not a Christian notion. Mike confesses his fear of retiring out of youth ministry — 'what am I gonna do?' — and Ben lands on trusting God to keep using them, Dan adding 'if you have a pulse, you have a purpose.'
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